Whats wrong is that you're trying to get a ship nerfed on an absurd fit that will never be used by anyone but you, and will result in guaranteed 400m lossmails.



You won't GET 900 DPS in a 6/10, because that requires you to be within 3 km using Void and Ogre IIs, which move at the speed of molasses.

Most will probably over tank the thing when they first get it out of fear of losing it. I give that mentality about two weeks before people realize it doesn't take much to get by in a 6/10 and they switch to the gank oriented fits.

But, you need to balance ships around max or near max skills.

You cannot balance ships around low SP players because it would inevitably cause them to become imbalanced as their skills improved. The vast majority of EVE players have near perfect skills and to not balance around that would cause a massive negative shift away from "Everything is pretty viable" to "You need to fly X ship to even compete". Yes, some thought and consideration should go into lower SP players, but this is not a ship for lower SP players. It is a 'pirate' ship that is designed for players who have a significant investment of skills in two racial ship lines and weapons.

If I had a graph with X being strength and Y being SP, you would want all the lines to converge near the end, not expand. As nice as it would be it is not possible to balance everything perfectly from 55k sp to 150m sp due to the sheer complexity of the game.

I've said this once before and I'll say it again. I love these ships.

As a gaming community, we tend to focus on the pew in the game. After reading this thread and mulling over the ideas listed by players and CCP I've come to a few conclusions:

1. Exploration for all sites should be the focus. Covert Ops allows for high/low sec players to experiment with worm holes and null. Those players will not have the luxury to swap out ships. So I agree with the explorers (I am not one) and think it will be important for these ships to be viable for all exploration tasks. That means scanning AND pew sites.

2. I don't like lasers. But that's the theme. I think the two turret points on the cruiser with a 100% dmg mod will strongly encourage that theme. I think the 5H slots are needed. Salvager/Covert Ops/Improved Scanner/2x Turrets. 5/5/5 works.

3. The Frigate desperately needs 3 high slots. The same 100% laser bonus would work with one turret hard point as well.

Would I like to support a humanitarian theme? Heck yes. But not at the expense of exploration as that career needs more love. The pew/pew should come into play for the DED sites. Add a covert to target delay larger than most un-bonused ships to discourage them for pvp.

Unfamiliar with the Proteus, I see. Oh, and bump tackling. It's not like a targeting delay actually stops people from ganking in any way, shape or form. Burying your head in the sand, will not help you ignore the hurricane.

It needs the laser bonus completely removed, to be honest, and another bonus slapped on.

The major problem with that, as I see it, is the total seesaw in regards to virus strength, everywhere but highsec.

It's either +10 or go home. That's the problem here, all or nothing.

Yeesh, I am so sick of this "but X steps on the toes of Y" nonsense. Stop defending your own little bagwa and see the big picture.

Because you totally actually have a clue what any of that is, right? I mean, it certainly cannot be the case that no information whatsoever has been released about the eventual place that T2 cov ops frigates will hold. Goodness knows you aren't just talking out your ass when you say that, right?

Look at reality once in a while, it's refreshing. The nature of the minigame is very binary now that rats are gone from the sites, and it's possible to destroy the loot inside if you fail. +10 or go home.

How's this for better stats?

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Astero

Role Bonus: 100% reduction in CPU requiement for cloaks
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10(+5) Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists
OR
+5m^3 drone bay per level

Gallente Frigate Bonus:
20% bonus to drone hitpoints
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and optimal range

Slot layout: 3H(+1), 4M, 3L(-1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 32 PWG, 170 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 480(-80) / 660(+60) / 620(+20)
Capacitor (amount) : 430
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 312 / 2.87 / 975000 / 3.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 37km / 620 / 6
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 35
Cargo Capacity: 210

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Stratios

Role Bonus: 50% reduction in Energy Turret capacitor need
Role Bonus: 37.5% bonus to Energy Turret tracking and optimal range
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength
Role Bonus: +5 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets (-1) , 0 launchers
Fittings: 920 PWG, 400 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1450(-500) / 2400 / 2450
Capacitor (amount) : 1700
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 182 / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7
Sensor strength: 20
Signature radius: 150
Cargo Capacity: 550

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What these changes accomplish:

ASTERO:
The Astero is made a better frigate overall - with the loss of a lowslot, there is now potential for better drone application and better damage. It should be great for doing the lowest level complexes and blitzing L1s and L2 in hostile space - maybe even better performance in wormhole space! Since there's no gun bonus and not too much tank, it won't be overpowered when it comes to PvP. The +5 virus strength will be a welcome bonus to those of us who do sites in nullsec (this can be changed back if it overshadows other ships too much). The loss of shield HP makes it so this can not be turned into an OP PvP brawler because of 4 mid slots.

STRATIOS:
The loss of a turret slot on the Stratios minimizes the potential for the neutron fits that some people think are OP (despite them being complete glass cannons)- yet damage application will be better for PvE'ers, making this ship more capable in PvE and less capable in PvP. The loss of shield HP prevents the efficiency of pure shield gank fits.